Although our Question to the Prime Minister was not selected, his online Prime Minister's Questions from the public session today, did touch on some important things like the National Identity Register etc.
Some discussion about what Tony Blair siad about the National identity Register amd ID Cards can be found on the
But a lot of our e-mails say, yes but you are endangering civil liberties carelessly, you a lawyer of all people are doing this, and you know we can tackle crime but we don't tackle crime by behaving in ways in which are wrong and without due process. Prime Minister: Well this is the debate I would love to have in the country over the next few months, because I think there is a fundamental issue here.
But a lot of our e-mails say, yes but you are endangering civil liberties carelessly, you a lawyer of all people are doing this, and you know we can tackle crime but we don't tackle crime by behaving in ways in which are wrong and without due process.
Well this is the debate I would love to have in the country over the next few months, because I think there is a fundamental issue here.
Tony Blair or Gordon Brown or John Reid or any other Labour party apologists are welcome to enter into such a debate right here, right now.
Because I am quite sure, based on the experience I have had in government, you cannot solve some of these law and order problems unless you are prepared, quite profoundly, to change and rebalance the system of criminal justice so that you have more summary justice, more summary powers, more ability for quick and effective action to be taken, even if it will cross the line that most people normally think of as there in terms of civil liberties.
So the Ends Justify the Means ? How is this attitude not that of a slide towards a dictatorship ?
There is nothing wrong with speeding up the justice system - build more Courts and Prisons if necessary, train and hire more Judges, but do not destroy our fundamental human rights andd liberties.
Do not treat the vast majority of innocent people as "suspects"
And my view is that you can decide that you are not going to do it for civil liberty reasons, decide it, but then don't say to the politicians and all the rest of it, you have got to deal with this problem, because you cannot deal with it in my view by the normal processes of the law, you just can't do it.
Whatever happened to Tony Blair's slogan "Tough on crime, tough on the causes of crime" ?
The way the world has changed means that the only, and this is why we only started to get any action on antisocial behaviour when we introduced the power to get Antisocial Behaviour Orders, summary powers for the police, and the ability to take swift action. Otherwise the scale of change in community, family life, economic and social life is just too great, it is too profound.
Is part of Tony Blair's "historical legacy" going to be that he managed to induce a culture of of Anti-Social Behavior into British society ?
Surely there has always been such behavior to a greater or lesser extent, especially where alcohol and drug abuse has been involved ?
Now that is the debate I want to have with people, because what I get, you know one of the things that is very frustrating for me is, I get people saying to me why aren't you doing this, this and this in relation to law and order, and then why I introduce the legislation in Parliament, you know in debates not often reported, everyone is opposing the measures.
The Police and Justice Bill currently in the Lords, is the 52nd Home Office Bill going through Parliament since 1997.
Ever more complicated and often badly draughted legislation, which is not properly debated or scrutinised in detail by Parliament has not made us any safer, has it ?
Neither the Police nor the Criminal Justice system can keep up with even training their staff to understand the latest changes in the law brought in by Tony Blair and his Govenment, before the next re-organisation and change