chat - a honey pot for US Military whistleblowers ?

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This IDG interview of Julian Assange should worry potential whistleblowers:

Wikileaks founder reflects on Apache helicopter video

The mainstream media ignored some of the other material Wikileaks published, says Julian Assange

By Jeremy Kirk, IDG News Service
July 12, 2010 12:22 PM ET


Assange spoke on Friday at the Center for Investigative Journalism at City University in London,


The second half of the article contains this extraordinary claim:

Assange said about one in six people affiliated with the U.S. military who enter Wikileaks' secure chat room end up passing information to the Web site. He said those who come to the chat room often possess evidence of something that is making them angry.

"At that point, they come to us, and maybe we can help them," Assange said.

But turning those visitors into sources is delicate, and different approaches have to be used. "You really have to establish a connection at that moment," Assange said.

Is the "secure chat" system effectively a honey pot trap for US Military whistleblowers ?

It is unclear just how many "people affiliated with the U.S. military who enter Wikileaks' secure chat room" there have been.

Why would any real whistleblowers "affiliated with the U.S. military " or not, be stupid enough to contact , or anybody else, via Internet Relay Chat ? Chat web page gives instructions on how to connect to their Internet Relay Chat (IRC) chat system.

There are no warnings and no advice about how to use this Internet Relay Chat system anonymously, even though that web page claims

Whistleblower? Journalist? Citizen journalist? WikiLeaks writer, volunteer, supporter or techie? Get advice and talk with people like you on the WikiLeaks secure chat (also good for safe interviews with anonymous sources).

"also good for safe interviews with anonymous sources" ???

Not if they expect to remain anonymous for long if there is any sort of "leak investigation" !

It is irrelevant whether or not the chat system is "encrypted" using SSL - that does not protect the Communications Traffic Data i.e. IP address, time, date and how much data has been transferred in a session.

The SSL encryption certificate for is a self signed one, apparently issued by itself, but there is no explanation of why this should be trusted on the website.


There is no mention of how , for example, to use Tor to connect to this IRC system to try to protect your Communications Traffic Data from snoopers.

The IDG article continues

Assange said Wikileaks is currently re-engineering its submissions engine, an important security tool that can help protect sources who are passing sensitive information to the site. The submissions engine has been described as having military-grade encryption.

Assange contested a Wired magazine story from June 30 titled "With World Watching, Wikileaks Falls Into Disrepair." The story said that the submission engine has been degraded for months and that its SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) certificate had expired. Assange contended he told Wired magazine that it was being redesigned but that article said that he declined comment.

So why have neither Julian Assange nor any of the other activists bothered to update any of their website pages with this news ? Even now the website still gives the impression that there is a working "secure" submission service.

Is that incompetence or deliberate deceit ?


Thank God that someone's got the balls to release this sensitive info. If it were not for your website,all of us would still be trying to figure out the half truth the drones on american tv are trying to brainwash with. The president and all of his men are looting the USA. Do they think for a second that we are that stupid? Keep up the good work! we are headed for a civil war. SOON..........J.Nelms

I don’t know why people are trying to make a hero out of this looser who leaked this sensitive documents. Thanks for letting us know? No thank you to give Taliban a propaganda victory so now they can get a flood of recruits pouring out in Afghanistan and make situation even more worse than what it is. I am a Muslim and I have served in the British army. I am not gonna apologize for caring out my mission. I don’t know what this whistle-blower tried to achieve by leaking the information but one thing for certain, he not just put the lives of our brothers-in-arms at risk but also put the innocent civilians in harms way.

I can assure you that there is a lot of effort we dedicate to keep the civilian casualties as low as possible. Sometimes even risking ourselves.

Some videos are not what it seems anyway. For example, the apache shooting on 20 plus allegedly civilian population. We can see from the onboard video camera that they were armed and they were on the east of call sign hotel26's position. Let’s be honest what the hell 20 odd middle aged men armed with AK are doing in a hostile area? The guy who has been identified as Saaed with Video Camera is not somebody out of BBC, but he is probably insurgent's cameramen cause they have a tendency to record the engagement and then brag about it later on.

There are too many consistencies like this that seemingly looks that we are running a mafia than fight a war in Iraq or Afghanistan but that’s not the case.

I just want to assure everyone that we do all we can to spare the lives of innocent civilians and the infrastructures. But unfortunately civilians to get caught in somebody else's war.

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