Andrew MacKinlay MP - under secret surveillance ?

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Has Andrew MacKinlay, the sometimes rebellious Labour MP for Thurrock, been snooped on by the secret intelligence agencies and by Labour Ministers ? Have his conversations with his constituents and others bee snooped on as well, in contravention of the Wilson Doctrine ?

One of his constituents is Michael John Smith, who was convicted of passing aerospace secrets to the Russian KGB, but who is now trying to get his case reviewed.

Andrew MacKinlay recently asked a Parliamentary Question of Jack Straw if he had been snooped on whilst visiting Michael John Smith in prison. It also seems that a Government Minister has admitted that this MP's meetings with a "Russian Envoy" in the Palace of Westminster itself, were also being snooped on.

Are there hidden microphones or cameras, or a network of human informers sneaking about within Parliament ?



Monday, 2 June 2008

Justice
Prisons: Electronic Surveillance

Andrew MacKinlay (Thurrock, Labour)

To ask the Secretary of State for Justice whether the discussions held between the hon. Member for Thurrock and his constituent Michael John Smith at Full Sutton Prison, York on 1 September 1999 and 30 July 2001 were covertly (a) recorded, (b) transmitted and (c) monitored in some other way by or on behalf of any Government Department or agency; and if he will make a statement.

Jack Straw (Lord Chancellor, Ministry of Justice; Blackburn, Labour)

It is not our policy to confirm or deny surveillance operations in prisons. Since the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (2000) came into force, all forms of covert surveillance are subject to a strict and rigorous statutory regime for authorisations, and are conducted in accordance with the guidance set out in the statutory Codes of Practice. Independent oversight is provided, and is overseen by the Office of Surveillance Commissioner. The Investigatory Powers Tribunal was established to investigate and rule on any complaints.

As my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary made clear in her statement on 21 February 2008, Official Report, column 536, Sir Christopher Rose's inquiry into the surveillance of visits at Woodhill prison found

"no trace in recent years in prison records or anywhere else of any person known to be a Member of Parliament having been monitored during a prison visit".

It is very misleading of Jack Straw (or of his Sir Humphrey who draughted this Written Answer), to claim that the Chief Surveillance Commissioner's inquiry into the Sadiq Khan MP / Babar Ahmad electronic surveillance scandal made any attempt at independently checking all other MPs visits to Prisons - it certainly did not - the terms of reference of the inquiry were deliberately very narrowly constrained to the Woodhill Prison affair only.

See "Report on two visits by Sadiq Khan MP to Babar Ahmad at HM Prison Woodhill" - Rt. Hon. Sir Christopher Rose finds no illegality

Note the weasel words "any person known to be a Member of Parliament" - some of the Police Officers involved in the Woodhill prison bugging , who should have known better, claimed that they did not know that Sadiq Khan had become and MP - something which must cast doubt on their ability to analyse any intelligence data whatsoever.

It is also misleading to imply that surveillance in Prisons is properly covered by "safeguards" under RIPA - there is no statutory basis for the Interception of Communications Commissioner, for example, to audit or authorise anything done under the Prison Rules in a Prison, although he does inspect some Prisons, on a non-statutory, voluntary basis.

Perhaps this Parliamentary Question was prompted by the recent revelation to Andrew MacKinley, that he has been under surveillance, according to this report in The Guardian

MP complains at being 'warned off' meeting envoy

Richard Norton-Taylor
The Guardian,
Friday May 23 2008


A Labour MP said yesterday he was warned off meeting a Russian embassy official by a government minister and told that he was being monitored by the security services.

Andrew MacKinlay, a longstanding member of the Commons foreign affairs committee, described the approach by an unidentified minister last summer as "menacing". He said it was an example of how "craven" ministers were to the intelligence and security services.

He told the Commons he found the minister's actions unacceptable and a breach of his rights as an MP, particularly since his meetings with the Russian diplomat took place in parliament. He told the Guardian later that he was summoned twice last summer to the "headmaster's office" and the minister concerned knew what he had discussed with the Russian.

"Bearing in mind I meet the people from the Russian embassy in this building, it means the security and intelligence services are not only monitoring people coming in to this building, but monitoring honourable members who they meet, and presumably what is discussed."

He claimed intelligence officers wanted him to pass on information he learned from "casual conversations" about politics in Britain and Russia. He did not object to the fact that the Russian official was being monitored ahead of their meeting.

But he added: "What it was, was an approach by a minister warning me off doing this, and that was unacceptable to me and remains so." He called for greater parliamentary scrutiny and oversight of the intelligence services.

[...]

Keeping Russian envoys i.e. diplomats, under surveillance is normal and expected. However, such surveillance must stop during meetings with Members of Parliament.

Unless there was reasonable suspicion that Andrew MacKinlay MP was involved in some sort of criminal conspiracy involving the Russian envoy, then, according to the Wilson Doctrine, there should not have been any snooping on his conversation or meeting, especially not within Parliament itself.

Suspecting or knowing that your conversations or meetings are being monitored by the Government and its intelligence agencies must have a chilling effect on "freedom of speech".

Shouldn't the Speaker of the Commons be demanding that any spying on and surveillance of MPs, within the very precincts of the House of Commons, must be prevented, as a breach of Parliamentary Privilege and freedom of speech, according to the Bill of Rights 1689 ?

Instead of which, the Speaker has used the Bill of Rights to help the executive branch of Government to try to suppress Freedom of Information rights regarding OGC Gateway Reviews of the ID Cards programme.


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Apologies to our CIA readers etc. visiting via Cryptome, who have taken more than a passing interest in this blog article, but who have not been able to leave comments due a slight error.

The Question Book of tabled, but as yet unanswered, Parliamentary Written Questions now includes this follow up Question from Andrew MacKinlay MP:

213 N Andrew Mackinlay (Thurrock): To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, pursuant to the Answer of 2nd June 2008, Official Report, columns 849-50W, on prisons: electronic surveillance, what regime of authorisation and oversight of personal covert surveillance operations in prisons was in force in 1999; and if he will make a statement. (209485)

The Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000 obviously post-dates the alleged snooping on this Member of Parliament and his constituent in prison in 1999.

However, as the Sadiq Khan MP / Babar Ahmad case investigated by the Chief Surveillance Commissioner Sir Christopher Rose ans the Government's subsequent weasel words have revealed, such snooping could have been carried out under the Police Act 1996 or the Prison Rules.


In reality, most peoples in U.S land and the worldwide are not know to the most sophisticated technologies U.S. Governments have achieved for recent years and particularly currently with satellite mind control weaponry. Now and then, all their secret and remote attack activities are unsuspected onto anyone freely.

If do not mind, everyone can join in the petition at https://wwww.petitiononline.com/SMCW3048/petition.html to request international public investigations on the unsuspected threats, and going to get those bastards to be banned from the space being militarized by U.S. Governments, and the earth for peace to all.

Sincerely report.

@ Babillon - some evidence that this technology actually exists would be interesting.

There are some microwave etc. effects on people which work at short range, in laboratories, but the physics of doing so from satellites, or even, reliably in the street, seems to be just science fiction.

Andre MacKinlay MP (a Labour MP) does seem to be convinced that the Labour Government and MI5 have been illegally targeting him - yesterday's Oral Questions to the Ministry of Justice:

10 Jun 2008 : Column 146

Bill of Rights

[...]


Andrew Mackinlay (Thurrock) (Lab): Will the Minister give an assurance to the House that the new Bill of Rights will in no way diminish our existing Bill of Rights, in particular article 9. Will he assure us, indeed, that he will use it as an opportunity to reinforce article 9, which protects Members of Parliament from interference from outside, from people who would lean on and mislead Parliament before Committees, and that it will protect Members of Parliament from interference from the Executive, including MI5?

Mr. Wills: I can absolutely assure my hon. Friend that we will use the opportunity to build on the Human Rights Act. We are proud of that legislation, and we think it has done a good job; we will build on it, and not resile from it in any way whatsoever.

So that's alright then ?

Regarding the quotes:
"By wtwu on June 11, 2008 8:03 AM

@ Babillon - some evidence that this technology actually exists would be interesting.

There are some microwave etc. effects on people which work at short range, in laboratories, but the physics of doing so from satellites, or even, reliably in the street, seems to be just science fiction."

Hi WTWU,

Since you guys did not read carefully the petition and the signature comment section respond to that petition at https://www.petitiononline.com/SMCW3048/petition.html
, if you would do, you are going to know some traceable proofs of locations (currently) can be monitored and trace all such U.S. satellite mind control attack activities around there daily. A satellite monitoring such satellites' activities is the best to record in red-hand all such U.S. Government's crimes.
Most unsuspected peoples like you guys would help out U.S. Governments and private sectors working for top dark secret projects of U.S. Governments covering their unsuspected crimes now and then daily.

So, some traceable proofs are already published there; any authorities having technology capable can do tracings appropriately to collect intelligences on that as solid proofs against U.S. Governments'.

Warranty.

Sincerely report.

@ Babillon - well done for using Tor to post your comments here, thereby obscuring your computer's real IP address and other Communications Traffic Data.

However, you will not win any friends around here by false accusations like

Since you guys did not read carefully the petition and the signature comment section

You have obviously not bothered to read many articles here on Spy Blog - it should be obvious that we do read lots of tings very carefully indeed, and that we do not like being lied to by anyone.

There are no "traceable proofs" in that petition whatsoever.

Do you seriously expect people to start looking up obscure latitude and longitude coordinates, which are presented without even a link to an online map or a mention of the geographical area ? Why should they bother ?

Most of your links, are to mind control conspiracy theory websites, which do not even mention satellites at all.

Do you have any, even elementary knowledge, of physics and the power laws which govern the distances over which electromagnetic waves or particles can be detected ?

Why do you not have your own blog or website publishing such alleged proof of your theory ?

You could even publish anonymously using Tor hidden services


@ Babillon - You have had your chance to point to some actual proof or even to a plausible scientific theory which does not obviously contravene the laws of physics, and all you have come back with is the insulting:

The proofs are out there currently in act. Period. Please do not ask for free fishes already fried for yours.

A more inept way of trying to win friends and influence people to support you online is hard to imagine.

Go and annoy someone else, this blog will now treat you as a spammer.

@ Babillon - pay for your own bandwidth on your own blog or website !

In the time it took you to do a screen capture and annotate an image of this page, and to highlight where your insults have been censored, and then post the edited image to a file sharing service, you could have set up your own blog on which to pontificate about your scientifically and politically inept conspiracy theory.

Your false accusation that this blog is somehow run by the US or UK governments or intelligence agencies, is a further insult, which makes you look even more deluded.


See the comments in the later Spy Blog article London Diplomatic List - can you spot the expelled Russian diplomats ? and former UK Ambassador to Uzbekistan Craig Murray's blog article - Andrew Mackinlay - an Honest Man in Parliament

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UK Legislation

The United Kingdom suffers from tens of thousands of pages of complicated criminal laws, and thousands of new, often unenforceable criminal offences, which have been created as a "Pretend to be Seen to Be Doing Something" response to tabloid media hype and hysteria, and political social engineering dogmas. These overbroad, catch-all laws, which remove the scope for any judicial appeals process, have been rubber stamped, often without being read, let alone properly understood, by Members of Parliament.

The text of many of these Acts of Parliament are now online, but it is still too difficult for most people, including the police and criminal justice system, to work out the cumulative effect of all the amendments, even for the most serious offences involving national security or terrorism or serious crime.

Many MPs do not seem to bother to even to actually read the details of the legislation which they vote to inflict on us.

UK Legislation Links

UK Statute Law Database - is the official revised edition of the primary legislation of the United Kingdom made available online, but it is not yet up to date.

UK Commissioners

UK Commissioners some of whom are meant to protect your privacy and investigate abuses by the bureaucrats.

UK Intelligence Agencies

Intelligence and Security Committee - the supposedly independent Parliamentary watchdog which issues an annual, heavily censored Report every year or so. Currently chaired by the Conservative Sir Malcolm Rifkind. Why should either the intelligence agencies or the public trust this committee, when the untrustworthy ex-Labour Minister Hazel Blears is a member ?

Anti-terrorism hotline - links removed in protest at the Climate of Fear propaganda posters

MI5 Security Service
MI5 Security Service - links to encrypted reporting form removed in protest at the Climate of Fear propaganda posters

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Secure Your Fertiliser - advice on ammonium nitrate and urea fertiliser security

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Centre for the Protection of National Infrastructure - "CPNI provides expert advice to the critical national infrastructure on physical, personnel and information security, to protect against terrorism and other threats."

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Secret Intelligence Service (MI6) recruitment.

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Government Communications Headquarters GCHQ

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National Crime Agency - the replacement for the Serious Organised Crime Agency

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Defence Advisory (DA) Notice system - voluntary self censorship by the established UK press and broadcast media regarding defence and intelligence topics via the Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory Committee.

Foreign Spies / Intelliegence Agencies in the UK

It is not just the UK government which tries to snoop on British companies, organisations and individuals, the rest of the world is constantly trying to do the same, regardless of the mixed efforts of our own UK Intelligence Agencies who are paid to supposedly protect us from them.

For no good reason, the Foreign and Commonwealth Office only keeps the current version of the London Diplomatic List of accredited Diplomats (including some Foreign Intelligence Agency operatives) online.

Presumably every mainstream media organisation, intelligence agency, serious organised crime or terrorist gang keeps historical copies, so here are some older versions of the London Diplomatic List, for the benefit of web search engine queries, for those people who do not want their visits to appear in the FCO web server logfiles or those whose censored internet feeds block access to UK Government websites.

Campaign Button Links

Watching Them, Watching Us - UK Public CCTV Surveillance Regulation Campaign
UK Public CCTV Surveillance Regulation Campaign

NO2ID Campaign - cross party opposition to the NuLabour Compulsory Biometric ID Card
NO2ID Campaign - cross party opposition to the NuLabour Compulsory Biometric ID Card and National Identity Register centralised database.

Gary McKinnon is facing extradition to the USA under the controversial Extradition Act 2003, without any prima facie evidence or charges brought against him in a UK court. Try him here in the UK, under UK law.
Gary McKinnon is facing extradition to the USA under the controversial Extradition Act 2003, without any prima facie evidence or charges brought against him in a UK court. Try him here in the UK, under UK law.

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FreeFarid.com - Kafkaesque extradition of Farid Hilali under the European Arrest Warrant to Spain

Peaceful resistance to the curtailment of our rights to Free Assembly and Free Speech in the SOCPA Designated Area around Parliament Square and beyond
Parliament Protest blog - resistance to the Designated Area restricting peaceful demonstrations or lobbying in the vicinity of Parliament.

Petition to the European Commission and European Parliament against their vague Data Retention plans
Data Retention is No Solution - Petition to the European Commission and European Parliament against their vague Data Retention plans.

Save Parliament: Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill (and other issues)
Save Parliament - Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill (and other issues)

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Open Rights Group

The Big Opt Out Campaign - opt out of having your NHS Care Record medical records and personal details stored insecurely on a massive national centralised database.

Tor - the onion routing network
Tor - the onion routing network - "Tor aims to defend against traffic analysis, a form of network surveillance that threatens personal anonymity and privacy, confidential business activities and relationships, and state security. Communications are bounced around a distributed network of servers called onion routers, protecting you from websites that build profiles of your interests, local eavesdroppers that read your data or learn what sites you visit, and even the onion routers themselves."

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Anonymous Blogging with Wordpress and Tor - useful Guide published by Global Voices Advocacy with step by step software configuration screenshots (updated March 10th 2009).

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Amnesty International's irrepressible.info campaign

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BlogSafer - wiki with multilingual guides to anonymous blogging

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NGO in a box - Security Edition privacy and security software tools

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Home Office Watch blog, "a single repository of all the shambolic errors and mistakes made by the British Home Office compiled from Parliamentary Questions, news reports, and tip-offs by the Liberal Democrat Home Affairs team."

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Reporters Without Borders - Reporters Sans Frontières - campaign for journalists 'and bloggers' freedom in repressive countries and war zones.

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Committee to Protect Bloggers - "devoted to the protection of bloggers worldwide with a focus on highlighting the plight of bloggers threatened and imprisoned by their government."

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Icelanders are NOT terrorists ! - despite Gordon Brown and Alistair Darling's use of anti-terrorism legislation to seize the assets of Icelandic banks.

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No CCTV - The Campaign Against CCTV

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I'm a Photographer Not a Terrorist !

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Power 2010 cross party, political reform campaign

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Cracking the Black Box - "aims to expose technology that is being used in inappropriate ways. We hope to bring together the insights of experts and whistleblowers to shine a light into the dark recesses of systems that are responsible for causing many of the privacy problems faced by millions of people."

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Open Rights Group - Petition against the renewal of the Interception Modernisation Programme

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WhistleblowersUK.org - Fighting for justice for whistleblowers